What do we mean when we speak of a community?/Qu’est-ce que ça veut dire quand nous parlons de «communauté»? - Community life competence2024-03-29T06:31:52Zhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/forum/topics/what-do-we-mean-when-we-speak?commentId=2028109%3AComment%3A69133&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Phil, The principle is the…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-03-11:2028109:Comment:1316852014-03-11T13:02:27.823ZJohn Piermont Montillahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/JohnPiermontMontilla
<p>Hi Phil, <br></br><br></br>The principle is the principle of community. The role of the constellation is to capture community knowledge from various sources with regards how they apply the concept of community in their respective work.<br></br><br></br>I like your idea of the "route". I think what the constellation can develop is a conceptual framework of that route in which the end is community life competence.<br></br><br></br>As I review the posts in these threads, I see numerous measurable concepts that are…</p>
<p>Hi Phil, <br/><br/>The principle is the principle of community. The role of the constellation is to capture community knowledge from various sources with regards how they apply the concept of community in their respective work.<br/><br/>I like your idea of the "route". I think what the constellation can develop is a conceptual framework of that route in which the end is community life competence.<br/><br/>As I review the posts in these threads, I see numerous measurable concepts that are related to the principle of community. Like the sense of "belonging" from Ian, then "identity" according to Onesmus, and "membership" according to Geoff and "shared belief" according to Abednego.<br/><br/>So among all of us here, we have common understanding expressed in different concepts and to further weave these very useful concepts into one principle that is "community". We need the tools for people to measure their competency in line with the principle of community. Not only tools but also support (coaching, mentoring, co-creation of local concepts and access to material and financial support).<br/><br/></p> Hi Gloria, I like this a lot.…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-08-14:2028109:Comment:692282011-08-14T03:20:36.160ZGastonhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Gaston
<p>Hi Gloria, I like this a lot. It shows the important 'commitment' part of each individual as being part of the community. They have to see the common good and be committed to act towards that by investing their resources. Not all, but at least time inputs. </p>
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<p>Or can a community members be a simple 'consumer' of the community's output without contributing? </p>
<p>Hi Gloria, I like this a lot. It shows the important 'commitment' part of each individual as being part of the community. They have to see the common good and be committed to act towards that by investing their resources. Not all, but at least time inputs. </p>
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<p>Or can a community members be a simple 'consumer' of the community's output without contributing? </p> Hi Phil,
As I go about think…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-08-13:2028109:Comment:691332011-08-13T10:30:51.608ZGloriahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Gloria
Hi Phil,<br />
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As I go about thinking of the different groups I have been working with, I was asking myself this question : what is community? Is community defined as "whenever 2 or 3 are gathered, then, they form a community? Is community different from groups?<br />
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So, I was very happy to find this discussion on the meaning of community.<br />
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My personal definition would be that community is where people with COMMON interest/passion/goal come together and each is willing to INVEST their resources for the…
Hi Phil,<br />
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As I go about thinking of the different groups I have been working with, I was asking myself this question : what is community? Is community defined as "whenever 2 or 3 are gathered, then, they form a community? Is community different from groups?<br />
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So, I was very happy to find this discussion on the meaning of community.<br />
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My personal definition would be that community is where people with COMMON interest/passion/goal come together and each is willing to INVEST their resources for the COMMON GOOD - it involves both giving and receiving.<br />
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Groups are people coming together - but not all may be wanting or ready to both give and receive.<br />
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I hope my definition and understanding of community especially in the context of Community Life Competence will get clearer as I learn more through the Blended Learning and with more SALT practices. Hi Phil
this resonates well w…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-06-15:2028109:Comment:547402011-06-15T09:14:34.801ZGeoff Parcellhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/GeoffParcell
<p>Hi Phil</p>
<p>this resonates well with something I have just read from FAO (Food & Agriculture Organisation in Rome) on an e-learning module [<a href="http://www.imarkgroup.org/">www.imarkgroup.org</a>] for knowledge sharing.</p>
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<p>They define a community as "A set of people who define themselves as members, who care about something in common - a shared interest - and interact around that interest over time.</p>
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<p><strong>Membership</strong> is something very…</p>
<p>Hi Phil</p>
<p>this resonates well with something I have just read from FAO (Food & Agriculture Organisation in Rome) on an e-learning module [<a href="http://www.imarkgroup.org/">www.imarkgroup.org</a>] for knowledge sharing.</p>
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<p>They define a community as "A set of people who define themselves as members, who care about something in common - a shared interest - and interact around that interest over time.</p>
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<p><strong>Membership</strong> is something very explicit in communities. You know who belongs (and who doesn't!) in the group. You know who is who.<br/>Membership also implies roles. In communities, we talk about "community leaders" and "charters", and other forms of group agreements. Communities have mechanisms to sign up and belong, and expectations about how people might participate.<br/>Finally, membership allows people to establish a professional identity amongst peers. People build their own reputation in a community. If a member of a community contributes consistently over time, people know they can rely on both the person's knowledge and their reliability.</p>
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<p>Strong communities are often very clear about their <strong>shared interes</strong>t. They notice and respond when it changes over time.<br/>However, the strong focus tends to weed out people who are less interested or committed to the shared interest and potentially exclude diverse ideas.<br/>Sometimes this interest is imposed by one's job description or organization. Sometimes it comes from our own personal motivation.</p>
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<p>Communities are not one-time things. A single great meeting may enable a lot of knowledge sharing, but a community keeps up that sharing over time. So thinking about how we support our "togetherness" over time in a community is important. <br/>Today, being together can mean people who regularly see each other face to face, or who <strong>interact together</strong> online. It means seeing a community in terms of it's lifecycle of beginning, middle and end. Sometimes, it means being patient for a community to evolve."</p>
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<p>Their focus is around development communities but the elements of membership, shared interest and interaction (or acting together) seem to to be key elements of a geographical community too.</p>
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<p>Geoff</p>
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<p> </p> Hi Phil, this 'questionnaire'…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-04-23:2028109:Comment:446852011-04-23T08:18:39.438ZGastonhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Gaston
<p>Hi Phil, this 'questionnaire' on community mobilisation <a target="_self" href="http://www.txsip.org/TSIP/Toolkit/CommScore.pdf">http://www.txsip.org/TSIP/Toolkit/CommScore.pdf</a> seems to identify three elements: </p>
<p>1. Sense of community</p>
<p>2. The capacity to mobilise</p>
<p>3. The readiness for focused action</p>
<p>Hi Phil, this 'questionnaire' on community mobilisation <a target="_self" href="http://www.txsip.org/TSIP/Toolkit/CommScore.pdf">http://www.txsip.org/TSIP/Toolkit/CommScore.pdf</a> seems to identify three elements: </p>
<p>1. Sense of community</p>
<p>2. The capacity to mobilise</p>
<p>3. The readiness for focused action</p> Yes I agree that community do…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-03-27:2028109:Comment:411242011-03-27T15:57:32.896ZAutry Hayneshttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/AutryHaynes
<p>Yes I agree that community does not limit to a geographical location. I think of a community of Constellation Coaches in different parts of the world but can identify with each other and plan activities with similar results, can support each other in many ways, especially morally, share experiences. These qualities / elements contribute to a group of humans being in a community.</p>
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<p>Autry</p>
<p>Yes I agree that community does not limit to a geographical location. I think of a community of Constellation Coaches in different parts of the world but can identify with each other and plan activities with similar results, can support each other in many ways, especially morally, share experiences. These qualities / elements contribute to a group of humans being in a community.</p>
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<p>Autry</p> Indeed Phil! BY is the most i…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-03-24:2028109:Comment:408422011-03-24T01:36:58.136ZJennifer Lentferhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/HowMatters
Indeed Phil! BY is the most important.
Indeed Phil! BY is the most important. Hi Jennifer,
I guess it's ju…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-03-24:2028109:Comment:407492011-03-24T01:35:13.710ZPhilhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Phil
<p>Hi Jennifer, </p>
<p>I guess it's just a personal challenge for me to be able to deal with the question, 'What is a community?' when I talk about the Community Life Competence process. I found that I was not able to do justice to the question. Hence my need to explore the topic. </p>
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<p>Do you think that in addition to initiatives <em>for</em> and <em>with</em> the community we should envisage initiatives <strong>by</strong> the community?</p>
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<p>phil</p>
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<p>Hi Jennifer, </p>
<p>I guess it's just a personal challenge for me to be able to deal with the question, 'What is a community?' when I talk about the Community Life Competence process. I found that I was not able to do justice to the question. Hence my need to explore the topic. </p>
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<p>Do you think that in addition to initiatives <em>for</em> and <em>with</em> the community we should envisage initiatives <strong>by</strong> the community?</p>
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<p>phil</p>
<p> </p> Dear Jennifer,
For us a com…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-03-23:2028109:Comment:407412011-03-23T07:30:28.699ZLaurence Gilliothttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/LaurenceGilliot
<p>Dear Jennifer,</p>
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<p>For us a community is not only a geographical community but also a 'working community' like an organisation :-) That's why it is interesting to discuss about how we define communities...</p>
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<p>Laurence</p>
<p>Dear Jennifer,</p>
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<p>For us a community is not only a geographical community but also a 'working community' like an organisation :-) That's why it is interesting to discuss about how we define communities...</p>
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<p>Laurence</p> Frankly, I think an explorati…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2011-03-23:2028109:Comment:407382011-03-23T03:02:35.185ZJennifer Lentferhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/HowMatters
<p>Frankly, I think an exploration of the definition of "community," while important, is not vital. Rather, what we need to concentrate on is enhancing our understanding of an organization or a project's relationship to its constituency. You can read more on a piece I wrote entitled, <a href="http://www.how-matters.org/2010/09/13/spotting-community-ownership/" target="_blank">Spotting Community Ownership</a>. Determining whether a development initiative is…</p>
<p>Frankly, I think an exploration of the definition of "community," while important, is not vital. Rather, what we need to concentrate on is enhancing our understanding of an organization or a project's relationship to its constituency. You can read more on a piece I wrote entitled, <a href="http://www.how-matters.org/2010/09/13/spotting-community-ownership/" target="_blank">Spotting Community Ownership</a>. Determining whether a development initiative is occurring <em><span>for</span></em> or <em><span>with</span></em> the community is sometimes subtle but the most vital definition of which we need to be clear.</p>