The Death we constructed - Community life competence2024-03-29T13:34:29Zhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/forum/topics/the-death-we-constructed?commentId=2028109%3AComment%3A140337&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYes, I agree, it is the relat…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-10-28:2028109:Comment:1416902014-10-28T18:24:53.908ZNathalie Legroshttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/NathalieLegros
<p>Yes, I agree, it is the relationship that counts; at the end, that is the only thing remaining: our life is rich of all these relationships;</p>
<p>the sadness is OK (although uncomfortable and sometimes painful), it is a sign of our open heart, I like the words of Chogyam Trungpa: <span>“The ideal of warriorship is that the warrior should be sad and tender, and because of that, the warrior can be very brave as well.” </span><span><br/></span></p>
<p>Yes, I agree, it is the relationship that counts; at the end, that is the only thing remaining: our life is rich of all these relationships;</p>
<p>the sadness is OK (although uncomfortable and sometimes painful), it is a sign of our open heart, I like the words of Chogyam Trungpa: <span>“The ideal of warriorship is that the warrior should be sad and tender, and because of that, the warrior can be very brave as well.” </span><span><br/></span></p> So true. I think we will not…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-10-28:2028109:Comment:1416802014-10-28T07:14:19.810ZRituu B. Nandahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/RituuBNanda94
<p>So true. I think we will not be sad once we realise the impermanence of our body and permanence of our soul. -We are spiritual beings in human form. As there is no evidence we always question it, no?</p>
<p>So true. I think we will not be sad once we realise the impermanence of our body and permanence of our soul. -We are spiritual beings in human form. As there is no evidence we always question it, no?</p> One friend told me that I'm s…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-10-28:2028109:Comment:1416132014-10-28T02:51:27.953ZTianfang Liuhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/TianfangLiu
<p>One friend told me that I'm sad for the loss of your important other, but I'm also happy, at the same time, for the importance of our relationship. It is the importance of our relation that makes me feel sad for your loss.</p>
<p>One friend told me that I'm sad for the loss of your important other, but I'm also happy, at the same time, for the importance of our relationship. It is the importance of our relation that makes me feel sad for your loss.</p> Can we, for example, find wit…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-09-03:2028109:Comment:1408232014-09-03T12:09:58.126ZTianfang Liuhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/TianfangLiu
Can we, for example, find within our sorrows a deeper appreciation for the<br />
lives of those no longer with us? Can we count the many ways in which they<br />
have enriched our lives and those of others? Indeed, can we locate within our<br />
suffering an appreciation for the very fact that we suffer? Are such feelings not<br />
a tribute to those we have lost, and a signal of the depth of our relationship?<br />
<br />
From Positive Ageing Newsletter, Issue 79.
Can we, for example, find within our sorrows a deeper appreciation for the<br />
lives of those no longer with us? Can we count the many ways in which they<br />
have enriched our lives and those of others? Indeed, can we locate within our<br />
suffering an appreciation for the very fact that we suffer? Are such feelings not<br />
a tribute to those we have lost, and a signal of the depth of our relationship?<br />
<br />
From Positive Ageing Newsletter, Issue 79. Can we, for example, find wit…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-09-03:2028109:Comment:1406402014-09-03T12:09:48.828ZTianfang Liuhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/TianfangLiu
Can we, for example, find within our sorrows a deeper appreciation for the<br />
lives of those no longer with us? Can we count the many ways in which they<br />
have enriched our lives and those of others? Indeed, can we locate within our<br />
suffering an appreciation for the very fact that we suffer? Are such feelings not<br />
a tribute to those we have lost, and a signal of the depth of our relationship?<br />
<br />
From Positive Ageing Newsletter, Issue 79.
Can we, for example, find within our sorrows a deeper appreciation for the<br />
lives of those no longer with us? Can we count the many ways in which they<br />
have enriched our lives and those of others? Indeed, can we locate within our<br />
suffering an appreciation for the very fact that we suffer? Are such feelings not<br />
a tribute to those we have lost, and a signal of the depth of our relationship?<br />
<br />
From Positive Ageing Newsletter, Issue 79. What a fantastic description…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-09-03:2028109:Comment:1405672014-09-03T09:03:12.614ZTianfang Liuhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/TianfangLiu
<p>What a fantastic description and wonderful experience for death.I usually imagine, in the dark, that my grandma is still living with me. Her appearence, body, action is still vivid in my mind. This would be more obvisous when I'm in a sad situation.</p>
<p>Thank you for your sharing, Gaston. Really amazing!</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Tianfang</p>
<p>What a fantastic description and wonderful experience for death.I usually imagine, in the dark, that my grandma is still living with me. Her appearence, body, action is still vivid in my mind. This would be more obvisous when I'm in a sad situation.</p>
<p>Thank you for your sharing, Gaston. Really amazing!</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Tianfang</p> Yeah, I agree with you two ve…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-09-03:2028109:Comment:1405662014-09-03T08:56:14.730ZTianfang Liuhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/TianfangLiu
<p>Yeah, I agree with you two very much that we are connected to our late relatives or friends, and they are still a part of ourselves, which can not be removed by anything, neither time nor space.</p>
<p>I feel it so amazing to communicate with both of you as well as all of the people at CLC. It is you and they who make my life prospered.</p>
<p>My sincere gratitude to you, Rituu and Nathalie as well as The CLC.</p>
<p>Yeah, I agree with you two very much that we are connected to our late relatives or friends, and they are still a part of ourselves, which can not be removed by anything, neither time nor space.</p>
<p>I feel it so amazing to communicate with both of you as well as all of the people at CLC. It is you and they who make my life prospered.</p>
<p>My sincere gratitude to you, Rituu and Nathalie as well as The CLC.</p> Fascinating dialogue. Rituu,…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-08-18:2028109:Comment:1403582014-08-18T03:46:55.764ZGastonhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Gaston
<p>Fascinating dialogue. Rituu, what helped me to deal with such challenges is recognize how I am still the continuation of that person. If I look deeply inside and am not attached to a certain form of him, I can see that person is still really present inside of me. The person is still imprinted in my words, thoughts and actions and through my life I can continue their beautiful manifestation in different forms. That person didn't really 'die', they changed manifestation and continue in such…</p>
<p>Fascinating dialogue. Rituu, what helped me to deal with such challenges is recognize how I am still the continuation of that person. If I look deeply inside and am not attached to a certain form of him, I can see that person is still really present inside of me. The person is still imprinted in my words, thoughts and actions and through my life I can continue their beautiful manifestation in different forms. That person didn't really 'die', they changed manifestation and continue in such remarkable and beautiful ways. </p>
<p>If you think it's useful, take to look inside yourself and see the beautiful qualities of your father and bring these into the world through your life. You will see that he is still so alive inside of you! </p> dear Rituu,
I feel your confu…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-08-14:2028109:Comment:1404442014-08-14T07:33:31.612ZNathalie Legroshttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/NathalieLegros
<p>dear Rituu,</p>
<p>I feel your confusion and actually I share it: one thing is to KNOW that death is in continuity with life, another thing is to integrate it in the whole being (body, emotions...) and to LIVE according to it;</p>
<p>Today, exactly 16 years ago, I had a Near Death Experience, that moment in itself was beautiful as much as the reality of my life at that time was painful and difficult. Today, I am still alive and so are my 3 children who went through the same…</p>
<p>dear Rituu,</p>
<p>I feel your confusion and actually I share it: one thing is to KNOW that death is in continuity with life, another thing is to integrate it in the whole being (body, emotions...) and to LIVE according to it;</p>
<p>Today, exactly 16 years ago, I had a Near Death Experience, that moment in itself was beautiful as much as the reality of my life at that time was painful and difficult. Today, I am still alive and so are my 3 children who went through the same hardship.</p>
<p>16 years of life :-) thanks!</p>
<p>It feels to me that peace lies in living in the 'present moment': a way to inhabit very much the present, and to appreciate what is, here and now; not that it is about forgetting the past and the future, but rather that past and future are included in this very moment: you are the daughter of your father and in this very moment, that connection is alive, it is part of you; you are also a mother, at the very same time; this is Rituu, the one also in deep connection right now with Nathalie and Tianfang conversing on this intimate topic of life and death...</p>
<p>deep thanks to you both, Rituu and Tianfang, for your sharing, that has stimulated me to stop and reflect on these last 16 years,</p>
<p>Nathalie</p>
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<p></p> Thanks Nathalie and Tianfang…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2014-08-13:2028109:Comment:1404382014-08-13T17:17:31.468ZRituu B. Nandahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/RituuBNanda94
<p>Thanks Nathalie and Tianfang for your sharing. It has been very hard to cope with my father's death. I have tried my hardest to figure out how to celebrate his life and not mourn his passing, but that's not easy. <span> Once I am awakened to the fact that we are visitors here on earth, I will be at peace. Isaac Asimov remarked: </span><i>"Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that is troublesome." </i></p>
<div>Another thought that comes to my mind today is that though…</div>
<p>Thanks Nathalie and Tianfang for your sharing. It has been very hard to cope with my father's death. I have tried my hardest to figure out how to celebrate his life and not mourn his passing, but that's not easy. <span> Once I am awakened to the fact that we are visitors here on earth, I will be at peace. Isaac Asimov remarked: </span><i>"Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that is troublesome." </i></p>
<div>Another thought that comes to my mind today is that though we three of us live in different countries but we all bound by the cycle of birth and death.</div>