SALT: where does it begin and where does it end? - Community life competence2024-03-29T00:28:35Zhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/forum/topics/salt-where-does-it-begin-and?commentId=2028109%3AComment%3A26230&feed=yes&xn_auth=noReading the same book and sam…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-10-12:2028109:Comment:264602010-10-12T08:25:31.919ZElvis Simamvwahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/ElvisSimamvwa
Reading the same book and same page is the beginning! Have been shocked by this every time I get feedback. So I now start with appreciating the fellas time,health and thought processes. Remembering all the time we are sharing capacities
Reading the same book and same page is the beginning! Have been shocked by this every time I get feedback. So I now start with appreciating the fellas time,health and thought processes. Remembering all the time we are sharing capacities Dear Phil,
Listening and lea…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-10-10:2028109:Comment:263972010-10-10T13:45:16.094ZRituu B. Nandahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/RituuBNanda94
Dear Phil,<br />
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Listening and learning happens simultaneously but I think that when I consciously try to learn I tend to pick much more when I am just a passive listener.<br />
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Can I ask you a question? For instance in a SALT visit you ask a query from a community member whose language you don't understand. What happens when he looks at you and answers your query? Are you listening? what is the thought process in your mind?<br />
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Thanks.<br />
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Rituu
Dear Phil,<br />
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Listening and learning happens simultaneously but I think that when I consciously try to learn I tend to pick much more when I am just a passive listener.<br />
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Can I ask you a question? For instance in a SALT visit you ask a query from a community member whose language you don't understand. What happens when he looks at you and answers your query? Are you listening? what is the thought process in your mind?<br />
<br />
Thanks.<br />
<br />
Rituu Yes, Liv
Your description re…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-10-01:2028109:Comment:262732010-10-01T15:48:56.723ZJean-Louis Lamborayhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/JeanLouisLamboray
Yes, Liv<br />
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Your description resonates with my experience; Yes SALT can be experienced in silence. There may be moments when "everything stops"; there are no processes anymore. Krishanmurti writes about this in his book: Freedom from the known"....
Yes, Liv<br />
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Your description resonates with my experience; Yes SALT can be experienced in silence. There may be moments when "everything stops"; there are no processes anymore. Krishanmurti writes about this in his book: Freedom from the known".... Le dynamisme en spirales.
C'…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-10-01:2028109:Comment:262702010-10-01T08:58:08.195ZPhilhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Phil
<i>Le dynamisme en spirales.</i><br />
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C'est vraiment beau.<br />
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L’idée a crée pour moi une très belle journée.<br />
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Merci a toi.
<i>Le dynamisme en spirales.</i><br />
<br />
C'est vraiment beau.<br />
<br />
L’idée a crée pour moi une très belle journée.<br />
<br />
Merci a toi. Olivia,
Your note has helped…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-10-01:2028109:Comment:262692010-10-01T08:53:24.782ZPhilhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Phil
Olivia,<br />
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Your note has helped me to try to grasp at something that I've been struggling with for a while.<br />
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There is indeed your first dimension that looks at what we do. We learn, we appreciate, we transfer....<br />
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But what soon becomes clear is the process goes round in a loop. We learn and we share.<br />
And then what becomes even clearer is that this is not really going round in a loop; the process is not sequential.<br />
But the process of learning and sharing is simply happening, something that I would…
Olivia,<br />
<br />
Your note has helped me to try to grasp at something that I've been struggling with for a while.<br />
<br />
There is indeed your first dimension that looks at what we do. We learn, we appreciate, we transfer....<br />
<br />
But what soon becomes clear is the process goes round in a loop. We learn and we share.<br />
And then what becomes even clearer is that this is not really going round in a loop; the process is not sequential.<br />
But the process of learning and sharing is simply happening, something that I would like to describe as we learn-and-share.<br />
And in the same way, we-appreciate-and we-are-appreciated.<br />
Perhaps your second dimension.<br />
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And when this happens well, this leads to the exhilaration that you describe so well in your third dimension.<br />
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And then I think that there is your very un-narcissistic fourth dimension. We transform and we are transformed. We have helped each other to grow.<br />
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I don't think that this is very clear yet, but I will keep working on it.<br />
<br />
Phil Merci Phil
Et cette beauté n…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-10-01:2028109:Comment:262682010-10-01T08:45:24.581ZYounoussa Diarrahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/YounoussaDiarra
Merci Phil<br />
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Et cette beauté n'est autre chose que le caractère non statique de la SALT autrement dit son dynamisme en spirales.<br />
C'est vraiment beau!
Merci Phil<br />
<br />
Et cette beauté n'est autre chose que le caractère non statique de la SALT autrement dit son dynamisme en spirales.<br />
C'est vraiment beau! Nous soutenons et puis nous t…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-10-01:2028109:Comment:262672010-10-01T08:30:28.750ZPhilhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Phil
Nous soutenons et puis nous transférons.<br />
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Mais quand nous apprécions, est-ce que nous soutenons?<br />
Et quand nous apprécions, est-ce que nous apprenons?<br />
Et quand nous apprécions, est-ce que nous transférons?<br />
Et quand nous apprécions, est-ce que nous nous transformons?<br />
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Ces questions ne sont pas des questions.<br />
Ces questions ne sont pas des problèmes.<br />
Ces questions sont pour moi la beauté de l’idée SALT<br />
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Merci younoussa
Nous soutenons et puis nous transférons.<br />
<br />
Mais quand nous apprécions, est-ce que nous soutenons?<br />
Et quand nous apprécions, est-ce que nous apprenons?<br />
Et quand nous apprécions, est-ce que nous transférons?<br />
Et quand nous apprécions, est-ce que nous nous transformons?<br />
<br />
Ces questions ne sont pas des questions.<br />
Ces questions ne sont pas des problèmes.<br />
Ces questions sont pour moi la beauté de l’idée SALT<br />
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Merci younoussa Myrna,
I would be very intere…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-10-01:2028109:Comment:262662010-10-01T08:10:29.310ZPhilhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Phil
Myrna,<br />
I would be very interested to hear about how you introduce SALT in this way. I think that the more that the Constellation learns about how to introduce this idea, the more successful we will be. If it is easier for you, perhaps you would prefer to talk about it over Skype.<br />
Best regards<br />
Phil
Myrna,<br />
I would be very interested to hear about how you introduce SALT in this way. I think that the more that the Constellation learns about how to introduce this idea, the more successful we will be. If it is easier for you, perhaps you would prefer to talk about it over Skype.<br />
Best regards<br />
Phil It was really enjoyable to re…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-09-30:2028109:Comment:262562010-09-30T07:59:54.969ZOlivia Munoruhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Olivia
It was really enjoyable to read everyone's responses. It seems that the concept of SALT has a strong influence over all of us, which says something in itself!<br />
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I like this conversation that Lawan and Phil have started, because it takes us back to the very core. Like Laurence says, a SALT visit is not about learning of technical aspects of a community but rather about experiencing their humanity.<br />
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For me, SALT is multi-dimensional. On one plane we have the acts of sharing, appreciating, learning…
It was really enjoyable to read everyone's responses. It seems that the concept of SALT has a strong influence over all of us, which says something in itself!<br />
<br />
I like this conversation that Lawan and Phil have started, because it takes us back to the very core. Like Laurence says, a SALT visit is not about learning of technical aspects of a community but rather about experiencing their humanity.<br />
<br />
For me, SALT is multi-dimensional. On one plane we have the acts of sharing, appreciating, learning and so on.... For me (still a level 3 learner) these acts are something I still must <i>actively do</i>.... But I cherish those moments when I suddenly realise that it is becoming more natural... when the letters of SALT begin to melt together.<br />
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On another plane we have that experience we get when we are appreciated or listened-to, i.e we are the subject of SALT. It is often simultaneous with the first plane... which has led me to realise that SALT is in no way linear.<br />
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I'd like to suggest that there is also a 3rd dimension. This consists of the deep emotional and even spiritual bonding we experience when we truly connect with people through SALT. It transcends words.... and thus can even occur in silence. It embodies not just people but our environment, the atmosphere and the setting.<br />
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Perhaps, for fear of sounding narcissistic, I could suggest even a 4th dimension. This is Self Reflection. In my experience, when I practise SALT, when it is practised on me and when I connect with others at the deepest levels it often leads to self reflection and personal growth....<br />
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Has anyone else experienced this?<br />
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Liv Bonjour
J'ai essayé de tradui…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2010-09-29:2028109:Comment:262302010-09-29T11:20:17.468ZYounoussa Diarrahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/YounoussaDiarra
Bonjour<br />
J'ai essayé de traduire pour voir si j'ai une bonne compréhension du texte anglais<br />
<br />
Récemment, j’ai eu une discussion avec Lawan à propos de comment nous devrions introduire l’idée de SALT. C’est facile de voir la SALT comme une marche en escaliers. Primo : nous soutenons, après nous apprécions, ensuite nous apprenons et enfin nous transférons (ou quelque de ce genre)<br />
<br />
Merci<br />
<br />
Youn
Bonjour<br />
J'ai essayé de traduire pour voir si j'ai une bonne compréhension du texte anglais<br />
<br />
Récemment, j’ai eu une discussion avec Lawan à propos de comment nous devrions introduire l’idée de SALT. C’est facile de voir la SALT comme une marche en escaliers. Primo : nous soutenons, après nous apprécions, ensuite nous apprenons et enfin nous transférons (ou quelque de ce genre)<br />
<br />
Merci<br />
<br />
Youn