Are we Too Rigid? Please share your thoughts! - Community life competence2024-03-28T20:15:53Zhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/forum/topics/are-we-too-rigid-please-share-your-thoughts?commentId=2028109%3AComment%3A123089&feed=yes&xn_auth=no"....it goes beyond that, wel…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-04:2028109:Comment:1232902013-08-04T14:28:18.301ZAutry Hayneshttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/AutryHaynes
<p><span>"..<strong><em>..it goes beyond that, well I believe it goes beyond that. CLCP strikes an individual sprit, it deals with an individual way of thinking which changes ones way of working, it changes their attitude and in turn changes the person lifestyle but it should be used correctly to be effective but that does not mean it’s rigid</em></strong>." has significant meaning. The accumulative individual benefits will surely translate into community's Way of Working. Our continued effort…</span></p>
<p><span>"..<strong><em>..it goes beyond that, well I believe it goes beyond that. CLCP strikes an individual sprit, it deals with an individual way of thinking which changes ones way of working, it changes their attitude and in turn changes the person lifestyle but it should be used correctly to be effective but that does not mean it’s rigid</em></strong>." has significant meaning. The accumulative individual benefits will surely translate into community's Way of Working. Our continued effort could contribute to sustainability for the communities. Thanks Tricia for this post. It is stimulating (^_^).</span></p> From the comments and also my…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-04:2028109:Comment:1233612013-08-04T14:01:27.044ZTricia Francishttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/TriciaFrancis
<p>From the comments and also my personal experience it clearly shows that the CLCP is far from rigid.</p>
<p>Like <strong>April Foster</strong>, I too wonder if the reflection about the process being too 'rigid' has multiple layers, probably the recipient was unwilling to open themselves to experiencing this new process but whatever the case may be that comment was made and we appreciate it, now there is room for improvements.</p>
<p><br></br> I must say kudos to those who have sought…</p>
<p>From the comments and also my personal experience it clearly shows that the CLCP is far from rigid.</p>
<p>Like <strong>April Foster</strong>, I too wonder if the reflection about the process being too 'rigid' has multiple layers, probably the recipient was unwilling to open themselves to experiencing this new process but whatever the case may be that comment was made and we appreciate it, now there is room for improvements.</p>
<p><br/> I must say kudos to those who have sought opportunities to integrating CLCP effectively with others because what I know and have seen prior to my introduction of CLCP is that Organizations or the “Pipers” ^_^ are more aware with methodologies that deals directly with the issue at hand and the best way to rectify it. <br/> It goes in a pattern like this, these are our communities in need, and here are their problems, what strategy should be used to help fix those problems and how much money should we invest? It’s like a business transaction being discussed. We know that WASH, SWAT, ABCDEFG… etc. are very great tool but most of all we know that it’s NOT about going into a community and show them how to fix their problem.</p>
<p>And these are the typical situations / challenges that we the coaches, facilitators and strong believers of the CLCP might/usually face when we go all out to seek opportunities to introduce CLCP because it’s different. It’s not that popular and like <strong>YERUVA ANTHONY REDDY</strong> said “we don’t have scientific evidence to prove the impact”, and finally it’s unlike any other methodologies that are widely accepted and that is why it’s so important for us to be able to introduce our process effectively and with our saltiness. Like <strong>MariJo</strong> said “it’s not easy to arrive to a level five of SALTiness, but we must weigh if our attitude is being salty.”</p>
<p>And as CLCP users our first evidence base should be ourselves because we should first apply these aspects to our own lives before rushing off and trying to introduce it to other people lives, because CLCP is not JUST a different Methodology and I will go as far as saying it’s a way of life, this process is not just using and incorporating tools and teaching people to do things, it goes beyond that, well I believe it goes beyond that. CLCP strikes an individual sprit, it deals with an individual way of thinking which changes ones way of working, it changes their attitude and in turn changes the person lifestyle but it should be used correctly to be effective but that does not mean it’s rigid.</p>
<p>WHAT IT MEANS is that we as coaches, facilitators and believers in the CLCP need to remember that we are our own participant and sometimes we need to hear a comment like that, to bring us back to the mirror so we can pull ourselves together so we can competently and effectively introduce CLCP to the world and we can all agree with <strong>Michael Mc Garrell</strong> the world needs it. ^_^</p>
<p>jus my little contribution <3 </p> This is so NICE!! Its like tr…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-02:2028109:Comment:1232592013-08-02T14:18:52.793ZAutry Hayneshttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/AutryHaynes
<p>This is so NICE!! Its like traveling from where I live to the city. Different people in their respective vehicles travel at their own rate for different reasons. We are assured however as you say .".<span>so we can be happy we are on the right track!!" that we are heading for the same goal (destination) and can be confident and proud that we are supporting each other along the journey. Thanks for stimulating this reflection, it is doing much more than I think we anticipated (^_^). Thanks too…</span></p>
<p>This is so NICE!! Its like traveling from where I live to the city. Different people in their respective vehicles travel at their own rate for different reasons. We are assured however as you say .".<span>so we can be happy we are on the right track!!" that we are heading for the same goal (destination) and can be confident and proud that we are supporting each other along the journey. Thanks for stimulating this reflection, it is doing much more than I think we anticipated (^_^). Thanks too for all the input from ALL i.e on your behalf.</span></p> :-) You've utterly nailed thi…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-01:2028109:Comment:1231702013-08-01T11:52:04.572ZBoris Alberdahttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/BorisAlberda
<p>:-) You've utterly nailed this down to a knowledge asset I'll use in forthcoming events!</p>
<p>:-) You've utterly nailed this down to a knowledge asset I'll use in forthcoming events!</p> Thanks Autry
tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-01:2028109:Comment:1231682013-08-01T11:11:05.094ZYERUVA ANTHONY REDDYhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/YERUVAANTHONYREDDY
<p>Thanks Autry</p>
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<p>Thanks Autry</p>
<p> </p> Hi Anthony. Thanks for a real…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-01:2028109:Comment:1229152013-08-01T10:51:39.701ZOlivia Munoruhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Olivia
<p>Hi Anthony. Thanks for a really interesting response. Like Autry says below, you have highlighted the important role that AAR plays to help facilitators to constantly monitor and adapt how they are working. </p>
<p>I was particularly struck by your comment that "<span>that facilitator should enable the </span><strong>community to arrive</strong><span> at a constructive feedback rather than giving the feedback himself". This is a useful reminder, not only for communities, but for coaches,…</span></p>
<p>Hi Anthony. Thanks for a really interesting response. Like Autry says below, you have highlighted the important role that AAR plays to help facilitators to constantly monitor and adapt how they are working. </p>
<p>I was particularly struck by your comment that "<span>that facilitator should enable the </span><strong>community to arrive</strong><span> at a constructive feedback rather than giving the feedback himself". This is a useful reminder, not only for communities, but for coaches, who's role it is to stimulate the facilitators to continuously reflect on their own competency and impact. </span></p>
<p><span>You suggested that we build our understanding of impact and capture more evidence of results. What would you suggest would be the best way to go about this? </span></p>
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<p><span>Thanks again!</span></p>
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<p><span>Olivia</span></p> Thank you MariJo for your wis…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-01:2028109:Comment:1229132013-08-01T10:42:23.886ZOlivia Munoruhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Olivia
<p>Thank you MariJo for your wise comments. You have reminded us of the difference between following tools by the book and truly understanding the "spirit" of the approach. You talk about the subtle balance between openness and respect for principles, and how this requires constant reflection, listening and learning. I suppose that is what we are doing now, so we can be happy we are on the right track!!</p>
<p>Thank you MariJo for your wise comments. You have reminded us of the difference between following tools by the book and truly understanding the "spirit" of the approach. You talk about the subtle balance between openness and respect for principles, and how this requires constant reflection, listening and learning. I suppose that is what we are doing now, so we can be happy we are on the right track!!</p> Michael - the video sounds re…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-01:2028109:Comment:1229112013-08-01T10:38:32.719ZOlivia Munoruhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Olivia
<p>Michael - the video sounds really exciting! Make sure you share it with all of us on NING! Have you seen the research on Aids Competence Process and Cost Effectiveness? I have uploaded it here. It echoes what you are saying about the cost-effectiveness of CLCP in your experience in Guyana. </p>
<p>Michael - the video sounds really exciting! Make sure you share it with all of us on NING! Have you seen the research on Aids Competence Process and Cost Effectiveness? I have uploaded it here. It echoes what you are saying about the cost-effectiveness of CLCP in your experience in Guyana. </p> Boris, thank you for your ver…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-01:2028109:Comment:1231652013-08-01T10:34:27.706ZOlivia Munoruhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/Olivia
<p>Boris, thank you for your very useful insights from experience in Congo. How interesting that SALT was explored in the initial meetings, without necessarily naming the acronym.</p>
<p>One thing i have taken away from your response is that building ownership in a large programme requires a combination of role-modelling SALT (without necessarily naming it), appropriate structures, the <em>flexible</em> use of appropriate tools and all partners having a shared undertanding of the intended…</p>
<p>Boris, thank you for your very useful insights from experience in Congo. How interesting that SALT was explored in the initial meetings, without necessarily naming the acronym.</p>
<p>One thing i have taken away from your response is that building ownership in a large programme requires a combination of role-modelling SALT (without necessarily naming it), appropriate structures, the <em>flexible</em> use of appropriate tools and all partners having a shared undertanding of the intended impact.</p>
<p>We need to communicate that results are key - it is not an approach we use just because it feels good - we know from experience that it works. </p> Dear O, My input - We do not…tag:aidscompetence.ning.com,2013-08-01:2028109:Comment:1232362013-08-01T08:11:16.709ZOnesmus Mutukuhttps://aidscompetence.ning.com/profile/OnesmusMutuku402
<p>Dear O,<br></br> My input - We do not seek to substitute but rather - first understand and appreciate their way of working and together explore how SALT as a way of working and a way of – thinking (DNA of CLCP) can be integrated into their existing approach. In the journey of integrating, we continuously apply and reflect along the way on how we see SALT/CLCP being useful? What is different now?? How can we strengthen our work through SALT? Etc <br></br> We constantly share that - CLCP…</p>
<p>Dear O,<br/> My input - We do not seek to substitute but rather - first understand and appreciate their way of working and together explore how SALT as a way of working and a way of – thinking (DNA of CLCP) can be integrated into their existing approach. In the journey of integrating, we continuously apply and reflect along the way on how we see SALT/CLCP being useful? What is different now?? How can we strengthen our work through SALT? Etc <br/>
We constantly share that - CLCP distinctiveness - strengths based with all of its steps – are stimulating and enhancing ownership through working from strengths!</p>
<p>The Zambia AAS Competence (a RinD) as one example among many others has taught has that when communities envision about their own living reality or an issue they identify with. The Dream becomes less over ambitious if the question(s) for dream building is well context-ed. <br/> The self assessment - becomes equally important and particularly in this research programme because - a window for in-depth analysis is opened to help explore issues or dig deep through a community conversation that brings in new insights and shared knowledge through critical reflection by the people that know their situation. <br/>
Action planning - when communities identify their priority focus areas - key activities are named to help them move from current level to a desired or target level. We see from experience - communities name a mix of actions (some they can manage within own means but also others that will require external support) facilitators support the community or group to isolate the two categories. E.g. In Mapungu, Kalabo District - communities doing Fish Conservation and Crop diversification highlighted several actions - develop fish conservation by laws, sensitize communities on appropriate 3inch fishing nets, fish ban in some months of the year , initiate alternative livelihood improvement activities like poultry, vegetable gardening to ease pressure on the fish resource. Seek support from local partners around farmer capacity building on new farming practices to boost yield and manage crop diseases that affect productivity. All this named by the communities themselves but also the programme acknowledges their essence – together identify Research opportunities to help address (complementarily) the problems the communities identify during the action implementation. <br/>
In this context - interventions or partners can easily identify opportunities for support based on the action plans. For me this window is significant as - we come in through invitation rather than an expert mentality (imposition) for solving ‘their’ problems through interventions we deem fit for them.</p>
<p>Coming closer home - During the Great Lakes initiatives against AIDS, worked closed with two Networks per Country - PLHIV, Long Haul TRUCK Drivers as well as sex worker. In Mlolongo truck stop, we build a truck stop facilitation team that constantly began to do SALT. SALT visits turned things around - the existing VCT centre was running 4-5 voluntary test per day, in one single SALT visit - the no of Truckers seeking to know their status went up(over 60 truckers were getting tested per day)<br/> Going back to the Community named actions and perhaps after in-depth discussion around what makes the truckers and sex workers more vulnerable and at risk. They named many actions and among them were - participate in conversation around HIV and AIDS in the strategic centers along the transport corridor to create more awareness among ourselves and further learn how to prevent the infection among the trucking community. To the sex workers, they said - we get more than three clients in a day. We do not want to subject ourselves to any STI risk including HIV. We have children that we would want to continue to care for. Some of us want to learn how to best use a condom and we can share with our partners too…. we buy condoms but that eats into our profit. We would appreciate if we can be getting Condom supply at this point. We too share the extras with our colleagues when they run out of supply. We never want to gamble with our lives - sex workers in Mlolongo truck stop. <br/>
In the light of this request interwoven as an action point by the sex workers - the Ministry of Health Machakos - Level 5, seconded one of their Prevention staff to work with the Union and facilitate the supply of Condoms. <br/>
The VCT increased their staff and also began to relate better with their clients. They see the facility as their place where they can visit at any time and seek advice. They also play the link of other clients in their industry for support.</p>
<p>Warm wishes and thanks for the opportunity to contribute.<br/> Onesmus<br/>
Kenya</p>